Tuesday, September 2, 2014

Wiring Jackson: Cspire brings 1 gbps fiber to Bold New City.

The city of Jackson issued the following press release:





Kingfish note: One little item not stated in the press release is that the Lumumba administration did not submit an application to Cspire last year.  Jackson will also be the second state capital to offer enjoy this service.

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is when the haters start hating.

Anonymous said...

Envy Jackson. Would love to have this Mississippi based company serving Reservoir area of Rankin County!

Anonymous said...


1 GBPS from your location to the CSpire network but no guarantees beyond that. I seriously doubt this gets deployed in Wards 3, 4 or 5. That said, they should eventually take a ton of Jackson business away from Comcast whose service is total shit.

Anonymous said...

Already signed up and kicked in my $10! Bout time Hu Meena considering all the customers you have in NEJax.

Anonymous said...

I signed up.

C Spire is running fiber down Sheffield right now, it looks like.

Anonymous said...

Bout time Hu Meena considering all the customers you have in NEJax.

Meena not always the brightest. Nothing more than Creekmore CEO Friday. Struggles with concept of leaving money on the table.

Anonymous said...

1 Gig from the home is to the CSpire router. In order to truly have 1 Gig of Internet, they need to have an accumulative amount of upstream throughput. For example...if CSpire had 100 1 Gig customers, they would need 100 Gig of upstream capacity,(which they do not have). It sounds good and makes good advertising, but in this case 1 Gig is not 1 Gig.

Anonymous said...

Well Mr. 9:05 Know-It-All, what will the actual speed be? I will wager that it will be many times faster than DSL or cable. I suppose you have a service in the works that will beat C-Spire!

Anonymous said...

@9:05, if it's not good enough for you, then don't sign up. I'm a proud Cspire wireless customer and will be signing up for their internet and TV service, too. You can wait and sign up when other companies offer 1 Gbps internet.

BTW, a buck "suck it" to Mary and her minions. Jackson is going to be wired like a couple dozen other cities in the country while you're focused on cheap facades for your metal buildings. I'm proud that Jackson is one of just three cities in the metro to realize this opportunity!

Anonymous said...

If it's anything like their pitiful LTE service, it will be throttled and constant proxy errors.

Anonymous said...

9:58, The speed will be about 10 Meg, which is a far cry from 10 Gig. However, I expect it will be better than cable or DSL. The 10 Gig statements being thrown around are misleading.

10:19, I never said I wasn't going to sign up, actually I use CSpire and have fiber to the home, but I am not getting 1 Gig, (not even close).

Anonymous said...

It won't be anywhere near 1Gbps of true throughput. CSpire isn't AT&T. They pay to connect to the backbone internet providers (L3, AT&T, etc.) and I can guarantee you it's not unlimited (maybe they offer them 30 minutes of streaming... wouldn't that be ironic :D). The more their customers use, the more they will pay their provider - hence throttling will be common.

This infrastructure is beneficial for their TV service as it will all come back to CSpire's nodes that host the services. It's possible you could see 1Gbps transfer rates between your neighbors with the same service.

It's definitely a step in the right direction, but its more marketing fluff. CSpire isn't big enough to offer true 1Gbps coverage across the internet.

Anonymous said...

How much is this fiber optic cable worth? What precautions is CSpire taking to prevent the residents from digging it up and selling it?

Anonymous said...

9:58, The speed will be about 10 Meg ... However, I expect it will be better than cable or DSL.

Currently get 25+ Mbps w/ Comcast (w/ SB6141) in Jackson.

Anonymous said...

"The speed will be about 10 Meg, which is a far cry from 10 Gig. However, I expect it will be better than cable or DSL. "

Comcast routinely delivers more than 10 Mbps on our home cable; business cable accounts are reportedly faster.

Go to speedtest.net and run a test to see what your isp is delivering.

Anonymous said...

I'll be surprised at what kind of pre-registration they get. They're asking you to pay them $10 so that they MIGHT build a fiber network in your neighborhood. I looked at the terms, and at first glance I didn't see any obligation on C-Spire to actually do this by a certain date. If your city never qualifies, they'll refund your money.

And what do you get for your $10? $10 off your first bill. What a deal. Take a risk (albeit a $10 risk) for the chance to save...$10!

I'm being nitpicky, since I'm assuming people interested in having Fiber don't care about putting up $10, but it's just a stupid way to "gauge" interest.

Anonymous said...

12:00
I think it's actually a pretty ingenious way of gauging interest. If it was a free signup, they'd get all kinds of yahoos putting down their name that had no intention of actually buying. By requiring the potential customers to actually spend money to register, it gives them a better perspective on who actually might sign up for the service.

Anonymous said...

I currently get consistent 55Mbps download and 11 Mbps upload with Comcast. Comcast isn't perfect, but their internet is rock solid. Their TV service is terrible though.

Anonymous said...

@ 10:40 AM - Fiber is relatively valuable, but fragile and probably would be destroyed by your common Jackson thug.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:00 PM - CSpire's marketing isn't the brightest. They have come up with worse ideas... PERCS, 4G+, "Unlimited" service that is limited to 30 minutes of video streaming and bandwidth throttling.

Anonymous said...

@12:37

I agree you have to have a system in place so that you get an accurate sample, but $10 with no promise of return and the only incentive is the possible return of your $10.

I think $10 pre-registration and your first month is free is much more likely to entice.

Anonymous said...

12:48 "I currently get consistent 55Mbps download and 11 Mbps upload with Comcast. Comcast isn't perfect, but their internet is rock solid. Their TV service is terrible though."

Sorry, but I can't believe that. I have never gotten above 13 Mbps download from Comcast. Are you using a business/commercial account? They are supposedly much faster.

Anonymous said...

Another Comcast warning:

Someone I know near the Madison County pineapple farms got a strange Comcast bill for a bunch of PPV porn. Apparently their home WiFi (which they thought has a password) was strong enough that neighbor boys could get it, and order PPV from Comcast, streamed over their laptops, and charged to the first party's home account. They are working with Comcast on how to block access (I'd start by changing passwords but that's just me).

Anonymous said...

Jacktown will never get the 35-45% signup required for the fiber to actually start getting installed. I doubt that Clinton will. nice p-r move by cspire, though - and it didn't cost them anything.

Anonymous said...

NEJackson neighborhoods will get the fiber. Just watch.

Anonymous said...

I'd wager that most of NE Jackson signs up, that Fondren signs up and that Belhaven signs up. I think Presidential Hills is another likely area. There may even be some pockets of South Jackson that make it. Looking at the fiberhood maps that C Spire had used in other cities, I think they'll have 50 or more fiberhoods in Jackson.

Maybe some of the technical wizards can explain for us why C Spire would deploy 144-count fiber in neighborhoods and give each house it's own strand if they're only going to deliver 10 Mbps. That's an expensive investment to make if you're going to under deliver so dramatically. And maybe our business school wizards on this thread can explain to us the model of advertising 1 Gbps while only delivering 10 Mbps on a new service that is expensive to deploy and that ultimately requires word of mouth to be successful.

I've got a friend in Ridgeland who's Beta testing this and he says it's incredible. After Comcast's SEC Network alternate channel debacle last weekend, I'd sign up for the video alone.

Anonymous said...

If fiber optic cable is what it takes to keep the natives in Jackson, I'll make a donation myself.

Anonymous said...

So basically, the 1 Gig is an advertising ploy and it's not true, possible but not true. The best you can hope for is probably 10 Meg, (1/1000th of 1 Gig, but whats a few hundred Meg among friends?. All that being said, it is a stable and reliable service, just not what it's advertised to be. Thanks Hugh.

Anonymous said...

i got it for my son in Starkville !IT is not much faster then dsl and about 150 a month

Anonymous said...

I've got a friend in Ridgeland who's Beta testing this and he says it's incredible.

Quantify "incredible".

Anonymous said...

So basically, the 1 Gig is an advertising ploy and it's not true, possible but not true.

No, it is true and the advertising is accurate. You get 1 Gbps between your location and the CSpire network. Your access to the front door of wide Internet beyond is @ 1 Gbps. What you don't receive is any assurance beyond that jump off point.

Anonymous said...

can you give me the name of the street in re-onion, I wanna take my phablet out there and watch some Jenna.

Anonymous said...

the speed has everything to do with your equipment in your home... your modem and your router. just tested my Comcast speed.
Download Speed 28.24 Mbps
Upload Speed 5.94 Mbps

returned the Comcast provided router two years ago and purchased a Docsis 3.0 modem and an Apple Airport Extreme router. my speed tripled and I have not lost internet connectivity more than twice in over two years and those were both due to major outages.

Anonymous said...

3:30pm - that story is total bullshit. Not feasible the way you are explaining it. Sounds like your friend's kids are the ones who ordered the porn, and they put one over on the parents.

Anonymous said...

I would be willing to bet that the people complaining about not getting the maximum bandwidth are all going through wifi. Try plugging directly into the wifi router. I have had uverse, xfinity, and directv DSL and have never had any issues with the speed being less than advertised.

Anonymous said...

9:18, my son just did a speed test and he is all CAT5E copper...11 Mbps up and down...no where near 10 Gbps...not even close.

Anonymous said...

8:50, back again. So, I asked him to quantify "incredible" and he said his speed tests consistently showed 940-960+ Mbps in both directions. He quit running speed tests because they were always the same. He said it takes a couple of minutes to download a movie and he downloads songs in seconds. Netflix is flawless, even when his son is doing online gaming. That'll do for me.

Anonymous said...

8:34pm - Out of curiosity, what provider does your son have that provides 11mbps up? That is non-standard. Not saying it's BS, just curious.

Anonymous said...

comcast residential
56mbps down
11mbps up

Anonymous said...

That is non-standard.

According to whom?

Anonymous said...

@ 8:16 AM - Most residential internet services are not symmetrical. Typically, the download bandwidth is much greater than the upload bandwidth.

Anonymous said...

8:16 - Because I would have expected upstream to be significantly slower than downstream. Instead he's getting 20% utilization of downstream vs 100% utilization of upstream. Not normal.

Anonymous said...

To clarify for everyone, the average American gets 10mbps. The absolute fastest most people could have around here is Comcast's 50mbps. Fiber to the Home will offer 1,000mbps and that is upload AND download speed. Note that this is 1gigabit (1,000mbps) to YOUR HOME. How you decide to split it up within your home is up to you (being on wifi, having multiple devices connected, etc.) but regardless it will significantly faster and better than anything else out there. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't want 100X faster connection and a way to get rid of Comcast?

Anonymous said...

Funny how people 2 months ago claim to have the service and that its not much faster than DSL. THe first customers just got turned on last week(early November)

Anonymous said...

I can't believe how incredibly cynical and mean-spirited most of the people are who frequent this blog - at least it appears that's the case based on your sarcastic comments and posts.

1 Gbps is 1,000 Mbps and there is no broadband provider in Mississippi willing to offer that service except C Spire and for $80 a month. It's symmetrical, which means it's virtually the same ultra-fast speeds for up and downloads.

Comcast and U-Verse are pretenders compared to these speeds. Even if you could get these speeds from them, you'd pay a King's ransom every month. $80 a month for non-customers and $70 a month for C Spire customers is a fantastic deal.

Beta trial customers did have the service before it was commercially launched in November - so it is possible for them to report about the speeds they experienced since they had the service.

And who said the service wasn't any faster than DSL? Whoever claimed that is sorely misguided and misrepresenting the truth, which seems to be in short supply on this site.



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