Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Plagiarism? We report, you decide.

Check out this video of The Queen talking about Lost Rabbit a few weeks ago at her state of the city address that is on the Clarion-Ledger website:


Link to video


Now compare to this post.  Let us count the clues:

*Notice the CL puts it logo on the bottom right hand corner of the video.
*Same exact camera angle as my video.
*Same exact length as my video.
*Only two people recorded the speech: JJ and WLBT
.  WLBT placed its camera on the side of the room. 

Here is the original video as posted on this website:


Thus the Clarion-Ledger went to the trouble of recording my video from Youtube, then uploaded it to its website without any attribution to me and passed it off as its own work.  My Youtube channel is Kingfishms. 

The Clarion-Ledger owes an apology and should provide proper attribution for the clip on its website. This correspondent was the one who arrived 45 minutes early, paid for his own camera and equipment, then spent a few hours uploading to computer, processing and editing said video, then uploading to Youtube so you, the gentle readers (Courtesy to Will Durant), could see exactly what took place. Then the newspaper comes along, downloads it, and then reuploads said video under its own name to its website without any attribution.  

Hmm....if it doesn't, then perhaps JJ should start plagiarizing the newspaper. Yup, thats a good way to handle this. Start ripping off stories from behind the paywall and post them here. You won't need a subscription. 

27 comments:

Bill Dees said...

KF, you should copyright your work.

Anonymous said...

You would certainly be justified to rip off CL--only problem is they have *nothing* approaching the quality of your work. Their shortcomings would be so glaring when posted here...

Anonymous said...

Rip from the C-L in retaliation?

Maybe in years past that would have been a good idea. Not so sure these days.

Sam Hall said...

I saw your post this morning and investigated on our end. Turns out that it was your video, but the online producer who posted it was not aware of that.

He received a link that was forwarded to him. He was told that the video was provided by MONA. He downloaded the video from YouTube, and then posted it thinking it had been provided to us. Turns out that MONA had shared your link earlier in the day, and that was the same link provided to our online producer. The producer did not pay attention to the name on the channel when he downloaded it, which is our mistake.

I’ve removed the video. My apologies for the mix-up. We would never knowingly publish content from other people without proper attribution.

In the future, if you have questions, feel free to reach out to me. You have all of my contact information.

— Sam Hall
Assistant Managing Editor/Digital
The Clarion-Ledger

Anonymous said...

You've caught them again. There is no dispute that the video is from your camera. No dispute.

...went to the trouble of recording my video from Youtube ...

I'm sure they didn't really go to the trouble of "recording" your work product as there are a myriad of tools available online to download the video as easy as 1-2-3. Using any of those tools is flat out stealing.

... thats a good way to handle this. Start ripping off stories from behind the paywall ...

Downside to such an approach is that you would lower yourself to their level and sully the quality of what you offer on JJ.

Where is that piss ant Eason now?

Anonymous said...

What do you expect from an outfit that employs Sam Hall? Integrity?

Anonymous said...

Someone is going to get fired today.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for pointing this out, KF. Just another example of how bad the CL is. You're correct, they should have had 'courtesy of' credit for the video.

For our sake, don't rip anything from the CL and post it here. It would lower the standards of JJ ;)

Anonymous said...

I am so tired of this Queen bs. She is an elected official, plain and simple. We are not a monarchy.

The CL should apologize kingfish. They stole your work.

Anonymous said...

8:53, When Queen Mary ran for office the campaign website listed "Queen Mary" as one of it's meta-tags.

Anonymous said...

"You agree not to access Content for any reason other than your personal, non-commercial use solely as intended through and permitted by the normal functionality of the Service, and solely for Streaming. "Streaming" means a contemporaneous digital transmission of the material by YouTube via the Internet to a user operated Internet enabled device in such a manner that the data is intended for real-time viewing and not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user."

"You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content."

Anonymous said...

Not only should they give you credit, they should pay you.

Anonymous said...

The producer did not pay attention to the name on the channel when he downloaded it, which is our mistake.

ROFLMAO. Sure. Is there any quality control in place at your outfit? Heck, isn't the job of double checking and confirmation that of the Editor?

Anonymous said...


Sam Hall = LOYAL JJ reader!

So is Donna Ladd but don't tell anybody because it is a secret. Sssshhhhhh.

Anonymous said...


8:34 AM, Mr. Eason is leaving. Won't be missed.

Anonymous said...


Think we should give
Sam a wee bit of credit
for apologizing.

Though the apology
would have been better
Sam if you had left the
video up and prominently
affixed "Courtesy of
JacksonJambalaya.com".

Will say Sam is bigger
than Ladd who never blinks
an eye when the JFP rips
off Kingfish.

Anonymous said...

What Sam is saying is "Please don't call me out again." If we handle this privately I can keep it on the down low. No, he won't be fired because there is no one left at the C-L. 1999 the C-L had an estimated 800 employees, today my guess less than 150.

Anonymous said...

Hall's explanation is total BS. Do you think they would have ran a photo that some mysterious person emailed them without getting permission to use it or giving proper attribution?

Anonymous said...

I like they way Hall basically concluded by saying in the event that we screw you again please feel free to reach out to me.

Anonymous said...

What is MONA?

Anonymous said...

Master homeowners association for Madison. For example when an alert goes out for strangers seen talking to kids, e-mail goes out from city to MONA they in turn pass it along to all homeowner associations in Madison. In minutes everyone is on the lookout. That's not all they do but seems to be a good group to work with.

Anonymous said...

MONA is Madison Organization of Neighborhood Associations. It's simply a volunteer group of interested citizens, a forum for communication, gathering community input, putting together town hall meetings and keeping all informed.

You pissants who continue to bitch and moan about 'the queen' need another diversion. Maybe you could get ten people to attend a meeting to discuss the Payday Loan dives in Pearl.

Anonymous said...

KF, consider it a compliment and move on. He did acknowledge it.
As far as Queen Mary, she is the Queen of Madison. Haters gonna hate but Truth is Truth.

Kingfish said...

Bill, that means $35 per copyright application. 600 videos. Do the math.

We like Sam over here. He came over here and replied in his own name. Give him some credit.

Anonymous said...

You can watermark your videos. YouTube has the "how to" video.

Anonymous said...

Watermarking will require a new campaign for donations for new equipment and training.

You low-attention-span readers actually think this thread is either about Madison or its mayor, when its about Kingfish bitching about infringement on his work product.

With recognition of the fact that John Bell Crosby has not been mentioned once.

Anonymous said...

Not a fan of CL but glad Hall came to site and posted.



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