Wednesday, January 8, 2014

Uh-oh. This is not good.

An HK MP-5 was stolen from the vehicle of a member of the JPD SWAT team overnight.  Thieves were able to bypass the alarm system in the vehicle and then steal the weapon.  The weapon was not secured in a lock box as is standard procedure.  MP-5.  A nice, little toy. 

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wonder if that moron will lose his job. Doubt it.

Burke said...

Bypassed the alarm system in a cop car? Weapon not locked up? This was an inside job.

Anonymous said...

the weapon is supposed to be in a special lockbox which is bolted/welded to the frame of the car in the trunk. in the late 1990s an FBI agent in Columbus didn't place the weapon the lockbox, just left it out in the trunk. the weapon was stolen in broad daylight from the parking lot of the building where the FBI office was located. it turned out to be a 17 year old who took it home not knowing what it was, the parent gave it to an attorney who gave it back to the FBI, with the agency agreeing not to prosecute the kid. they did NOT fire the agent and in fact promoted him to the Jackson office!

Pugnacious said...

Just last year same scenario in Hattiesburg.

Anonymous said...

I wonder who has the contract to install and maintain these alarm systems. Time to check for new youtube rap releases in da gutter and chit.

Anonymous said...

This says a lot about this.Jackson Police Department officials are asking the person who stole a fully-automatic weapon from a JPD SWAT officer’s unmarked police vehicle to return it.

So does this:

“We did have a police officer to have an auto burglary. And an assault rifle was taken, an MP5 submachine gun stolen,” Officer Colendula Green said by text message Wednesday afternoon.

Perhaps a KF reader can get out his or her red pencil and word this more betterly.


Unknown said...

So police carry MP5's but they're concerned about someone possessing an AR-15. Sounds legit.

Anonymous said...

MP5s are not exactly standard issue. I'm going to guess the officer had some semblance of firearms training and weapons retention and storage was or should have been covered. That's not a cheap gun either. Even though law enforcement doesn't have to pay full price that gun still probably cost well over a thousand dollars. Cheap compared to the fact that one registered for private citizen ownership is over $20k.

Anonymous said...

But, back to Columbus. How could a kid steal a weapon out of the trunk of a car (took it home), not knowing what it was? Did he open the trunk not knowing it was locked?

With all this police incompetence running amok, why was Kennuff always worried about gun shows?

Anonymous said...

Matt Jones,

The "police" are not worried about "you" having an AR-15. Law enforcement is a function of the executive branch of government. They only enforce laws passed by the legislative branch of government.

A Police Man.

Anonymous said...

I love gun nuts.

Anonymous said...

7:54
Every time gun control rears its ugly head, there is a line-up of policemen claiming that there is absolutely no reason for a citizen to possess an AR-15. Apparently they ARE "worried about you having an AR-15". Save your self-righteous bullshit. And by the way, which law was it that Bruce Barlow was following when he was shaking down the marks in Mendenhall?

Anonymous said...

The officer was a team member of a Special Weapons and Tactics. It was issued to him for those calls. It's not a duty weapon.

I have no idea about JPD, but not all jurisdictions require a "lock box." They do require an additional level of protection from theft. In cars, that can be a simple chain and lock system on the trunk with a separate key. A lock box allows use of the trunk on a regular basis without the cumbersome use of a method such as chains/locks.

That is not an "assault rifle." It fires the same 9mm bullets that many departments felt were too puny for LEO use in handguns. MP5s are not illegal to have unless LEO or military (as Lee Vance stated). The only component to an MP5 that makes it unique to the civilian is that it is fully automatic. A civilian can own fully automatic weapons if paying the proper taxes and having the correct federal documentation.

There are hunting weapons much more dangerous and/or powerful than this specialized weapon.

Anonymous said...

Are we disassembling weapons here or discussing incompetence? while I appreciate 9:10's knowledge, I see no need for it.

Anonymous said...

There's no need for your comment 9:44.

Anonymous said...

The sad reality to 9:44's comment is that it is much more acceptable to label not trying hard enough to keep someone from stealing your stuff as incompetence vs the audacity to stealing a LEO's weapon.

There was a time and there are still places where people do not have to lock their doors or take hugely special precautions to keep someone from stealing their personal property.

No one seems to be outraged at criminal acts. They would rather be outraged at the special talent born from the baby boomer generation of assessing blame everywhere else except for where the blame actually lies. That leads into them also having to blame someone for everything, whether a freak accident or simple mistake. And where there is blame to be placed, those same ones assuredly feel like there should be consequences.

Let's not hurt the feelings of the thief and try to blame them. 235

Back In The Day said...

If I leave a hundred dollar bill on my car hood in the driveway and a neighborhood boy takes it and I report it here on JJ, will your first reaction be to admonish ME for my stupidity or go into a discussion of wayward youth of the current generation and how things have changed over the past hundred years?

I thought so.

Anonymous said...

Berrrrrrrrt Case just demonstrated this weapon on the evening news. That should help find it in the community. My guess it's been either in Dallas or Chicago already for six hours.

Anonymous said...

9:10 there is a difference in firing three round volleys of 9 mm rounds from a Glock or Springfield and firing 30 rounds of same on full automatic. this is a popular weapon for special forces military units and they have the pick of any weapon they want in theory.

I agree though that the focus is why that weapon was so under-secured. If a police force can't affored the lock boxes, they shouldn't be allowed to have the weapons. The weapon is only one component of the weapon system that should be issued to the officer. The Columbus FBI agent should have been fired or assigned menial duties and this JPD officer deserves same.

Anonymous said...

Popular?

Really? That's like saying a gun shoots "hard". That's a broad attempt at logical fallacy.

It is indeed employed by many entities around the globe because of it's unique application where CQB with a reliable, low powered submachine gun is desired. Those are specialized applications much like the utilization of the M1014 or 590A1 shotguns that are popular with special forces military units or the .45 caliber HK handguns, or the... well you name it.

Let's use your logic, why would a unit use a pistol caliber sub-machine gun over a rifle caliber "assault rifle"? Why take a knife to a gunfight or a pistol to a rifle fight?

The weapon was once a champion among urban tactics, it is now relegate to less utilization as more modern versatile weapons are put into use.

And, the gun was not "under-secured" (more broad attempt at logical fallacy) than any other weapon stolen from a hardened safe or lockbox in a LEO's suv. A stolen firearm is always under-secured upon being stolen.

The problem is you have thieves, not those who have the things thieves want.

The additional problem is the attempt to over-dramatize this weapon to make it seem like some uber irresponsibility on the officer's part.

Anonymous said...

I never leave my computer in my car over night, for fear of it being stolen and my boss being angry. And that's just a computer. There's no excuse for this gun to have been stolen. I bet this cop wouldn't even leave a six pack of malt liquor in his car overnight, but city property is no problem.

And the reason i have an AR-15 is because the majority of cops are dumbasses. Especially jpd.

Pugnacious said...

While Bert was demonstrating the MP-5 on television, the real story was down there in Hattiesburg with WDAM breaking the news that Big Foot has been killed. Big Foot was lured to the ambush by pork ribs and then double-tapped--two bullets to the chest and one to the head. The body of Big Foot is undergoing an autopsy in DC.

noel said...

Close the Police Car Loophole!!!

Anonymous said...

Oh dear! A police officer can have moments of carelessness and be a victim of a crime? They can fail to follow policy and procedure to the letter every day in their jobs? Police officers are human and not super heroes like in the movies?
Why such things NEVER happen in any other job and anyone who fails to achieve a state of perfection consistently is automatically fired elsewhere!
Come on, people! Not every human mistake is indicative of a pattern of incompetence either in the human or the organization.



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