Monday, July 15, 2013

More information on "The Stack" incident

JJ published a post two weeks ago about an alleged incident that took place at "the stack" recently:

"I spoke to the victim in the Stack shooting. She was driving to Hattiesburg on I-55 South and approaching the "Stack". She said a blue truck was behind her driving "crazy" after she passed the Pearl River. She said the suspect was leaning out of the window while holding an object as he passed her car. She said he was a black male wearing a tank top and baseball hat. One of the rear windows in her car suddenly shattered. Glass flew all over the interior of her car and she received several cuts. She called the Mississippi Highway Patrol. MHP advised her to drive to the nearest police station. She drove to JPD. JPD took a report and also contacted law enforcement officials in Rankin County. The police advised her a bullet caused the damage. She also received medical treatment for her injuries."

I placed calls to JPD, none were returned. I did speak to the victim and the post is based on her accounting of the incident. JJ obtained a copy of the police report. The report states:

"The complainant was driving on I-55 N towards Hattiesburg, MS when she noticed a male hanging out of the driver side window, a dark truck. She heard a loud crash and her window broke."

The report states it was filed on June 35, 2013. We will assume for our purposes it is June 25, 2013. The report states it took place at I-55/High Street. However, Precinct 4 Commander McGowan sent this email to the Lefleur East Foundation after our post:

"This e-mail is in response to the flood of emails in reference to any Gang initiations or drive by shootings.

The incident being referred to as I-55 at the Waterworks Curve according to the Official Police Report.

At 800-830 am, the complainant (Female) was driving on I-55 South on what is referred to the Stack or Flyover (Not in Jackson or Hinds County). She had left High Street after getting a drink and was

headed toward Hattiesburg. While on the Stack at the split, she observed a black male hanging out of the driver's side of a black truck also traveling southbound. She was passing the vehicle from

the left side when she heard the crashing of her window breaking. NO Gun was seen. NO GUNSHOT or anything else was heard. The truck was Traveling at a high rate of speed. No other

information was obtained on the vehicle according to the report. We received the call at about 1050 am when the complainant went to JPD Headquarters for a report for her record and insurance purposes.

There is no evidence to support the window was shot out. Even though this incident occurred in another county, a JPD Officer took a report. I have attempted to call the complainant in this case. I am waiting for a call back.

I spoke with the Deputy Chief over investigations. He verified that he spoke with the complainant about the incident. The information he received from the complainant match the details in the report. No Gun was seen or heard.

I have attempted to contact the person who reported being followed into the Dollar Tree on Maywood Mart. The suspect bought a drink and left the store after following the complainant around in the store.

After returning home, she saw a vehicle that she thought was the same subject that followed her into the store. A photo was taken with the tag number. While following up on the photo, registration was obtained on the vehicle. it came back to a Gold Kia. The vehicle belonged to an elderly man. He advised police that he is the only one that drives the vehicle.

There is a lot of hype on Facebook, and the internet in general about Gang initiations targeting people, but is no evidence to support an increase in Gang Activity in the Jackson Area. The stories change a little about the initiations, but they circulate about every 6-9 months.

We sometimes receive reports of road rage incidents, but they are not regular occurrences.

If you feel that you are being followed, please call 911 immediately and let us come to you. You can also drive to a populated parking and blow your horn, make yourself seen and heard...and Call 911.

I have spent a considerable amount of time today researching and investigating these facts. I have not been to contact the complainants, but wanted to share the information that I have been able to obtain so far. I will update this information, if an update is warranted.

Commander James McGowan
Precinct Four


It should be pointed out this website did not cover the parking lot incident and thus has no comment on that part of the message.  The victim told this correspondent she called 911 when the incident at the stack happened. She said MHP advised her to drive to the nearest police station. She thus drove to JPD. There is no doubt her window completely shattered. She received several cuts when it did and obtained medical treatment for them. The question is whether the window was shot or not. (Wow, I'm a poet and didn't know it.) While the police report does not state a shooting took place, she said the JPD officer told her it was the only thing that could have cause the window to shatter as it did. Everyone get that? She said she was told it was the most probably scenario as to how it happened.

This correspondent called JPD and received no reply from the precinct commander before publishing the post. It turned out he was away on vacation when this incident took place. I went ahead and published the story because this was already being talked about on talk radio and social media. Please understand the rules have changed somewhat, thanks to social media. These stories spread like wildfire, much more so than even ten years ago. JJ spoke to the victim, attempted to contact JPD, and requested a copy of the police report (which takes seven business days to obtain). The victim's testimony was published with her permission. Now you have all of the facts and are free to judge the veracity of her account for yourselves.

A similar situation took place last Friday. The homeowner at 1910 Eastover Drive posted on Instagram she was robbed again. Sources heard the call on the police scanner that morning, and several JPD cars were seen at the home at 7:15 AM. JPD said no report was taken. JJ went ahead and broke the story. It was a judgment call, pure and simple. I spoke to several people at a couple of tv stations that day, told them what information I had and how it was obtained, and asked if I should have run it. To a man, they all said I definitely had more than enough for a legitimate story. Such was confirmed when two stations reported on the incident that night. Sometimes it is a judgment call. The philosophy is to get credible information published as quickly as possible so as to alert the public and to dampen the rumors. The rumors are always much worse than what actually happened.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Lefleur East Foundation is a joke.

Anonymous said...

No it's not 7:58. Get involved and see for yourself, or continue to stalk this site daily, just being a prick. You do nothing all day long except cast stores at those trying to improve our community.

Anonymous said...

What is the Lefleur East Foundation?

Anonymous said...

Not sure who you are referring to 8:23 but looking in your mirror may reveal your "prick". Suggest you take your own advice, get out and "see for yourself" how the neighbors near the Creekmore house feel about Lefleur East.

Anonymous said...

JJ and Readers should also know that on Thurs 07/11, the Eastover address 3918 Rhymes Place was robbed. This address is only a few houses down from the 1910 Eastover Dr home that has now been robbed twice in as many weeks.

Anonymous said...

I won't make any effort to conceal my bias here. I find it completely plausible that this woman's window could have been shot out while driving down the interstate. A couple of years back, I had a female wave a silver revolver at me while on I-55 south between Lakeland and Woodrow Wilson, so this wouldn't be the first time that a gun had been pulled by a driver on the same general stretch of I-55.

Having said that, how would a bullet be able to break a rear window and not either 1) break another window as it exited the vehicle or 2) become lodged in the vehicle somewhere or in an object in the vehicle?

I think it's more likely than not that her window was shot out, but there ought to be another shot out window or a bullet hole in her car, right?

Anonymous said...

8:48

Not entirely. The back window is the hardest window in the vehicle. Depending on the angle the bullet hit the window, it is entirely possible for a ricochet.

Anonymous said...

What color were the shirt and hat the guy was wearing?

Anonymous said...

most firearms shoot a projectile at supersonic speed, that means the bullet is traveling faster than the speed of sound. now in most cases where a supersonic projectile such as a bullet hits or strikes tempered glass, such as the glass of a rear automobile window, it will leave a very neat hole about the diameter of the projectile. now if a sub-sonic projectile hits a rear window it will shatter the entire window. I have had my tires pick up rocks and bounce them off of boats and trailers that I was pulling with my vehicle and have had my rear window shattered. you can shoot a tempered glass window out of a vehicle with a firearm, but it would have taken multiple shots to do that. and there are some sub-sonic pistols out there but they are few and far between.

Anonymous said...

"The back window is the hardest window in the vehicle."

Nope. The windshield.

Dah Pohlice seyz no said...

have you tried buying .22 ammo lately? It's easy to get your hands on the subsonic stuff. The regular .22 ammo is tough to come by now days.

toejangle said...

In the report JPD said the damage was caused by a bullet and they have had enough practice to know the difference..

Anonymous said...

"Suggest you take your own advice, get out and "see for yourself" how the neighbors near the Creekmore house feel about Lefleur East."

Hey PRICK at 8:45. All of the neighbors around the Creekmore House WELCOME the LE Foundation and the move to the house, except the crotchety old farts at Acadia Court, who were worked up into a frenzy by Baxter Brown. Look at the public record on it, prick.

Now go stalk some more.

Anonymous said...

FWIW we had a thick drinking glass explode spontaneously sitting on a bathroom counter a few weeks ago. I went back, thinking it had fallen off the counter, but my wife said it just exploded. The base was still on the counter but most of the glass was scattered around the counter and floor.

When I was younger, and Coke came in glass 64 ounce bottles, a co-worker lost an eye when a bottle exploded spontaneously while in a display in front of us. That was under pressure, of course, unlike the empty glass described above.

I don't know if this relates at all to windshield glass, but the bathroom incident occured only about a month ago. Very bizarre. We also had a pane of window glass crack spontaneously the first winter after new windows were put in, but that was bitter cold, and it cracked, it didn't shatter.

Anonymous said...

I think a regular dose of Lithium or Prozac could help the situations.

Anonymous said...

Kelly Headley is so hot.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Lefleur East Foundation is a joke.

Why insult a group trying to make a difference?

Car 54 said...

I've read through this thread twice and am (if this is a word) flummoxed. Is this an apology from Kingfish? Is it a contest to spot the number of times he screws up the english language? Is it an ad for a glass company specializing in windshield replacement? Is it a Vodka or Prozac commercial? Is it an attempt to divert from the most important subject in the nation, Zimmerman?

MHP dispatchers don't tell 911 callers to 'drive to the nearest police station'. Who the hell knows where the nearest police station is when you're on an interstate highway? And if you did, who the hell would drive into Jackson searching for a police station when there's one two miles away in Pearl?

Kingfish has several times refused to publish posts revealing the true identity of several of these fake dramaticians. This whole continued drama is a hokey crock of crap.

Anonymous said...

Car 54, I actually agree that the whole situation sounds strange, but if you're a Jackson resident you're likely to know where JPD HQ is but not the same thing for Pearl. I had to Google where the Pearl PD HQ is and I've lived in Jackson my whole life.

Anonymous said...

No doubt. Kelly is smokin'.

Anonymous said...

In other news spread via the Internet, Facebook will start charging for membership. It's true, I've seen five whole Facebook statuses about it! Also, there is a Nigerian prince who will make you a millionaire for fronting a small amount of money to him by wiring it to his bank account. According to the same source, gang pledges are shooting into cars on Jackson's interstate highways. If you deny these gospel truths, then you are a JFPer from Fondren who has a soft spot for abortions. There is no other explanation for your disbelief.

Anonymous said...

Tell us more! We obviously love this stuff or we wouldn't keep coming to this site! what is Lefleur East and what did Baxter Brown get stirred up?

Anonymous said...

I've lived in this area, including a stint in Jacktown, for 26 years and have no idea how to get to the JPD headquarters. Or if I found it, which direction to go, where to park or where the entrance might be. All I have to do is enter the town of Pearl and there's a cop every block or two who will help. Any 911 dispatcher will tell a caller to put their flashers on and drive to a well lit place of safety that's well populated. This whole thing is bogus shit to begin with.

Shades of the Waterworks Judicial Harley Davidson chase.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 4:31 for pointing out exactly what this is. Hysterical , white girls making up all kind of boogie man shit for their 15.

"DJT's daddy's money" said...

On the afternoon of July 1st, I was headed south on I-55. As I approached the Pearl River and the Stack, my rear passenger window exploded. Did it scare the crap out of me? Yes. Did I then or do I now think someone shot at me? Absolutely not (even though I did see a black guy driving next to me at the time!). Did I think it was worth the hassle to file a police report or insurance claim over a $160 window (installed)? No. I heard about these alleged shootings, and I was skeptical from day 1. If the JPD officer who took the report really told the woman that her window was definitely shot out, that officer should, at the very least, be reprimanded. Unfortunately, I am sure that some people will now allege a cover up and conspiracy. I have dumped an entire box of (unfired) bullets onto my back seat for anyone that wants to come search my car to prove that my window was indeed also shot out...



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