Monday, May 27, 2013

1938 Jackson

WAPT was cleaning out the vault and came across this old color video of Jackson.  WAPT provided it to Downtown Jackson Partners, who posted it on Youtube. Really interesting stuff.



It must be pointed out that while the film shows progress a'plenty, there was a large segment of the population that was kept out as segregation was in full force at the time.

42 comments:

Micah Gober said...

1938 was when Jackson Paved a street. Ok, that was a bad Joke, but the film clip was really cool showing what Jackson looked liked in the 1930s.

Anonymous said...

I loved this film clip.

Anonymous said...

the swimming lake at the zoo looked really fun!

Anonymous said...

As a 76 year old Jacksonian, it's very painful for me to watch this video. I have vivid memories of many of these scenes. I also traveled all over these United States during my working years; places such as Detroit, L.A., New Orleans, and D.C. At the risk of being bombarded with criticism for asking, what do you good folks see as the common denominator in the demise of each of the cities I named....and others?? Hint: Interesting introduction KF used .

Anonymous said...

11:28
bless your heart. i am 20 years younger and no less pained...

Anonymous said...

11:28,

1. I think many people from New Orleans would take issue with your claim that it has met its demise. Comparing New Orleans to Jackson doesn't make sense. I can't comment on Detroit and D.C. because I'm not very familiar with them, with the exception of a couple of short trips.

2. I hope your implication as to the common denominator isn't, " A BUNCHA BLAK PEEPLE LIV DER!" Because that would reveal a deep lack of understanding on your part of history and urban decay in general.

Anonymous said...

Can anybody tell which road that is they are paving at 6:45 to 7:00 minutes?

Anonymous said...

Fortification?

Anonymous said...

luckily those attitudes are dying out Mr. 76 year old

Anonymous said...

I think 1938 Jackson looks a lot better than 2013 Jackson

Anonymous said...

what do those cities have in common? all the folks that can't stand being around anybody different fled to the suburbs and took their money with them. The cities tanked, and in most cases sucked the suburbs down with them. All the finger pointing from those living 2 miles down the road is humorous. Its not like Madison County is New York City. Ok, so you have have an Applebees and a Sams.

Kingfish said...

Its a nice video but keep in mind there was a large segment of the population that couldn't enjoy that lake, the shops or restaurants downtown, or look at it with fond memories.

Anonymous said...

I swam in the lake as a small kid. My dad was a lifeguard there as a teenager. Pretty interesting video.

Anonymous said...

LA is still a pretty nice place for those with the means to afford it. Cannot compare those cities.

Anonymous said...

The City of Los Angeles is a dump.

Anonymous said...

5:03's post is asinine.

I used to live in Jackson and left for the suburbs.
Every house on my street was broken into and robbed, I was kidnapped and robbed at gunpoint, an 80+ year old woman was murdered in her home two blocks away, and you say I "can't stand being around anyone different" from me? Dang straight! I can't stand being around thieving, kidnapping, robbing and murdering thugs. If you want to hang around them have at it, but cut out your sanctimonious farts on this website.

Anonymous said...

love when the post-racial hipsters tell us we are traitors if we move 10 miles away. but they wont set foot in west jacktown. they draw the line at fondren or belhaven; well man up and stroll around JSU.

Anonymous said...

Chants of 'Racist Racist Pants On Fire' no longer shuts people up or manufactures false guilt or lifts up the sanctimonious.

And the common denominator is not and never has been 'white folk leavin' and takin' they money'.

But, if it were, would you rather leave and take your money or stay and have someone else take it?

Lyndon's pigeons done come home to roost.

Anonymous said...

Well I did see some black people in the video, but I didn't see any fat people.

Anonymous said...

Good grief, where did you live in Jackson 8:05 pm?
I know of 2 80 year old women murdered in the last 35 years but neither lived on a street where " everyone was robbed" and both neighborhoods are not only in tact but thriving. Indeed, driving through the Hawthorne neighborhood for the first time in a while, I was thrilled to see all the renovations to some very lovely homes!

Maybe your neighbors invented stories to get YOU to move !

Anonymous said...

11:55 pm You should shut up long enough to listen and learn and READ research!
Shouting your myths do not make them reality.

Anonymous said...

By the way, the murderer of Mrs. Henley ( if she's one of the ones to whom 8:05 pm was referring) was caught. He did tree work in Madison as well.

No one is immune to crime. Bad things happen. Try not to over-react.

Anonymous said...

8:38 Alta Woods is the neighborhood. If you want to deny that Janie Fullilove was murdered then you are a sick ^&*%^$. As for my kidnapping, should I scan and post the police report? Do you want me to ask my former neighbors to post the police reports of their break robberies?

You are wrapped up in defending Jackson, that you deny that innocent people are being hurt.

Anonymous said...

The crime apologists are out in force.

I know of 2 80 year old women murdered in the last 35 years but neither lived on a street where " everyone was robbed" and both neighborhoods are not only in tact but thriving.

...

No one is immune to crime. Bad things happen. Try not to over-react.

The crime apologists are the problem.

Anonymous said...

Crime apologists mantra: "No problem here. Everything is cool. Move along, don't look. We are experts, trust us. No problem here."

Anonymous said...

AMEN, 8:05 p.m.! Wonder why it's become popular for so many - predominantly young people - to deny the facts? If you deny them, are they no longer true?

Even though I'm no great follower of his, Michael Savage wrote a book a few years ago entitled "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" Well, the fact is, he was right. In order to be a liberal (or just think liberally on some subjects - like many of the earlier posters in this thread), you have to be able to deny what you see with your own eyes. You have to be able to see the truth but deny that it actually happened. Think about it: we ALL know what's changed in Jackson that's caused its decline and made it a less desirable place to live.....it's just that it's become popular to deny it.

Well in my (soon to be called a racist - I'm waiting) opinion, denying the problem hasn't (and won't) made anything better. And those denying it know that's the problem. They just keep on denying, and Jackson continues its decline.

Wonder if it's just coincidental that the video clip at the top of this thread ends with the sun setting over Jackson?

Anonymous said...

Tell you what do, Kingfish. Take a walk at night in Jackson and see what segment of the population causes you trouble, robs or mugs you. Blacks killed Jackson and if given the chance, will kill you or yours.

Blacks have killed more Americans since 1970 than died in Viet Nam, Korea and the mid East conflicts. Facts are not "racism".
• According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

• Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims",

Over 1 million whites were assaulted, murdered or raped by blacks last year.

• Blacks commit over 10 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

• According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

Were this anything else harming white people in these numbers the CDC would be battle stations.


Res ipsa loquitur!

Anonymous said...

I will agree that blacks killed Jackson and these other cities only because the Gov't and ACLU turned the criminals into victims and turned accountability into a free ride. Take away judgement and consequences to your criminal actions and this is what you're left with.

Let's not forget about removal of the Ten Commandments. Let's not forgot about the demise of the family structure (i.e., fatherless homes).

All forms of significant punish for bad behavior have been removed for young black men in America. When the father leaves home, it's left to the mother; some mothers have done a great job but only through "tough love" with their kids. Mother's who don't know this rely on the gov't to raise them. That's a problem when the gov't refuses to discipline its wayward citizens.

Anonymous said...

""By the way, the murderer of Mrs. Henley ( if she's one of the ones to whom 8:05 pm was referring) was caught. He did tree work in Madison as well.

No one is immune to crime. Bad things happen. Try not to over-react.""

Beautiful, 8:52 a.m. Perfect point. As long as the perpetrator VISITED a perceived predominantly-white area AND provided he was caught: no harm, no foul. Everything's good!

Also, there is relative parity, crime-wise, between Jackson and, say, Madison or Flowood, right? I After all, crimes DO happen in both places, right? So, you really can't say there's any real difference between Jackson and the suburbs, right? OK, well, I guess that's settled. You're obviously a fan of Jesse Jackson, because that's one of his very favorite tactics: 1,000,000 black crimes vs. 1,000 white crimes, and See? Both blacks AND whites commit crimes. They're no different from each other.

Let's change it up a bit: Let you or one of your family members become a victim of a violent crime and, once your ox has been gored (the true test of a crime apologist), let's see how your "bad things happen. Try not to over-react" position changes.....and it will. Immediately.

Kingfish said...

I didn't know there was a swimming hole next to the zoo.

Anonymous said...

Crime is everywhere black white hispanic, but the facts are where ever there is a larger concentration of black population the crime rates increase. People are not running from blacks they are running from crime...and that is where the race card is played.. I live in the burbs and have black neighbors and white neighbors..the black neighbors are friendlier and take care of there home better than most of the whites...black white whatever everyone wants the same.. a safe community to live in. Total Pop. % Black
Detroit, MI 713,777 84.3Jackson, MS 173,514 80.1
Miami Gardens, FL 107,167 77.9 Birmingham, AL 212,237 74Baltimore, MD 620,961 65.1
Memphis, TN 646,889 64.1
New Orleans, LA 343,829 61.2Flint, MI 102,434 59.5
Montgomery, AL 205,764 57.4
Savannah, GA 136,286 56.7

These are the facts... 7 out of 10 of these cities appear on the FBI's most dangerous cities in the U.S.

Anonymous said...

... places such as Detroit, L.A., New Orleans, and D.C. At the risk of being bombarded with criticism for asking, what do you good folks see as the common denominator in the demise of each of the cities I named....and others??

The common denominator is Donkeycrats.

Each increase by the given voting populations to a party affiliation of Donkeycrat has produced concomitant increases in crime, drug abuse, murder, out-of-wedlock childbirth, municipal debt, outrageous and unsustainable public employee union health and retirement benefits, etc AND lock step DECREASES in economic vitality, city prosperity and net inflation-adjusted tax receipts.

Decades of electing Donkeycrats into positions of governmental authority in each of those cities -- including Jackustan -- has metastasized the social and cultural cancer that has each city on its death bed.

Congrats Donkeycrats. You won't get what you want but you will gain a firm understanding of anarchy.

Civil war. History repeats.

Anonymous said...

The United States has one of the highest crime rates per capita in the world. If you took the black crime out of that figure, the United States has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Source: NRA.

What else needs to be said?

exjxnres said...

@ 9:52, you are right. Alta Woods USED to be a safe place to live. Not any more after the thugs moved in and took over the entire area. The law abiding public had to leave or build a fort. We also chose to leave.
There is a culture there now that I refuse to live among.
Robbery, corner drug sales, prostitution, shooting guns, and just general lawless activities abound. I was glad to get out, but sorry to have to leave what was once a great area of Jackson.
It was ruined by the Federal Government providing home loans to people with bad credit, or no credit, nothing down, no closing costs, and first three months free of any payments. They did not have to work for what they got, so it had no value....Sorta like welfare.
And yes, Kingfish, there was a "swimming hole" at the zoo. It was great as well as Battlefield Park. Long since gone...

Ridin' In A Pope-Mobile said...

Ben Allen and Tom Head have thrown in together and bought a mosquito fogging machine. It's been retrofitted to spray 'perception kool aid'. They're covering the city with it day and night and plastering it up on various blogs, probably even church bulletins. Y'all come on downtown. Nothing to fear here but fear itself. Ben said it and Head affirmed it. Safe-city USA. To think otherwise is to fall into the pit of racism. You just don't like negroes.

MarquisEsq said...

Thoroughly enjoyed the video kingfish. A lot of the comments on the cause of Jackson's problems are ignorant and unfounded however. I'm always amazed when I see someone post how they've witnessed a bunch of criminal activity being perpetrated by Blacks. Makes me think that person was there taking part as well. Here's another thought....If the city of Jackson is majority Black, of course the majority of crimes are going to committed by.....you guessed it...Blacks. Same in majority White populated counties. Go sit in a courtroom in Madison or Rankin county for a day or two then come back and tell me otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure about rankin, but the madison county courthouse is full of Canton residents. (Yep, black.)

Anonymous said...

Had to get the race-baiting comment in there, didn't you? Will we still be talking about segregation 500 years from now? I have a feeling I know the answer to my own question.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to decades of democrat liberal control, LA, Detroit, NOLA, DC and many other cities have descended into crime ridden pig stys.

Anonymous said...

Somethings are just obvious no matter how people try and sell it. The film speaks for itself.

Cbalducc said...

According to Wikipedia, Jackson doubled in population during the 1920s and grew considerably during the 1930s.
I wonder if any "old-timers" recognize the places seen in this film.
As far as race is concerned, blacks were often ignored in films of Northern cities during this period.

Cbalducc said...

I think the checkerboard water tower was at Livingston Park. Maybe the paint scheme was due to its proximity to Hawkins Field, which was Jackson's airport at the time. The old terminal is still there, but in terrible shape.



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