Thursday, November 18, 2010

As the Plains Burns......

Blue Tuna over at Tigerdroppings.com has put together a storyline on the Cam Newton scandal that I've posted below. Very interesting. Apparently the FBI came across this little fiasco while investigating the McGregor casino and the collapse of Colonial. The federal government indicted McGregor and a bunch of legislators and lobbyists in October. Damn good read even if none of it is true. Pour a drink and enjoy.












17 comments:

Kingfish said...

Whats funny is all the page views this is getting but no comments.

Anonymous said...

I can't come up with any comments, my head is still spinning. I don't know what's more insane, the (possible) situation at Auburn or the fact that the LSU dude did all that research.

Kingfish said...

You're not the only one. Dude outresearched me by a few miles.

Anonymous said...

I'm an Alabama grad with deep ties there, but even I have some real mixed emotions on this one. Part of me wants to jump for joy over the prospect of Auburn burning down their own barn, but the other side of this situation is the negative impact it will have on the SEC and college football period. Given everything that's gone down, or may have gone down, they are in it deep and sinking fast.

Anonymous said...

so when is this movie/book coming out? I can't wait for it

Anonymous said...

Absolutely amazing, I have a theory that MSU wanted him, was gonna pay, but got out flanked by AU. MSU felt that Cecil was a loose cannon and would talk, so MSU reported it, not knowing about the FBI wiretaps. If this is true, (and it appears to be so) AU may well get the death penalty. Cam will get a check from the NFL and move on. You can't make this shit up.

Anonymous said...

Theory: Cam wanted to go to MSU to play for Mullen - Rogers saw opportunity to get $$$ - Rogers convinced Cecil to try to get $$$ - Rogers/Cecil requested $$$ from MSU - MSU denied $$$ request - Rogers/Cecil got scared, pulled Cam from signing with MSU - Cam goes to Auburn.

Now, did Auburn pay? Who knows, but no evidence of such yet.

Anonymous said...

Now, did Auburn pay? Who knows, but no evidence of such yet.

Can you say wiretap?

Anonymous said...

Even if Rogers convinced Cecil to try to get $$, the fact that Cecil apparently did try to solicit $$ would be illegal and Cam would be ineligible. The fact that Rogers may have convinced wouldn't change the fact that Cecil committed the infraction.

Anonymous said...

1:02 - If MSU was going to pay, they would have kept their mouths shut to keep that from coming out. Instead, they were the ones that reported it.

Anonymous said...

2:12 Now, did Auburn pay? Who knows, but no evidence of such yet.

Can you say wiretap?

Anonymous said...

It's the little things in the report that tickle me. For example, the fact that the YellaWood guy is all caught up in this. Must be karma for all those commercials he does.

I lived in Alabama during the mid-90's and he did commercials with both Bowden and Stallings. They were bizarre -- who wants to see a coach discuss the merits of treated pine with a goofy dude in yellow clothing?

I also love the Victoryland slot machines that were fixed to guarantee payouts to Auburn players. Wonder if some old lady ever got one of those machines by mistake? Think they had her rubbed out?

Anonymous said...

Someome is reporting a mystery person on a grassy knoll.

Kingfish said...

Interesting comment on TD:

Take this for what it is worth. I'm just an old guy who knows little and remembers even less, but I've been around enough times to know what to believe and what not to believe.

I've been reading this forum off and on, but have never posted here. I don't plan on posting here again, but I do want to make my one post count.

To begin, those of you who are jumping ship because there is no damning evidence thus far, man up and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the barn won't burn faster just because you want it to. Trust me, though- it will burn.

My credentials are this: I know people who are in position to know things because I used to be one of those "in the know". I was involved in the initial investigation at SMU, not as a University official but as an NCAA pencil pusher. Right now, I have one son teaching at UAT and another in the athletic department at Auburn (I also have a cousin who was once employed by Auburn, but he has since cut ties with them after a falling out a few years ago). Finally, my neighbor and closest friend started as a CART agent with the FBI and does work with AccessData's FTK on the side (he's the guy who proves you visited those websites you lied to your wife about). I say all of that to say this: I consider myself well-connected. That does not mean, however, that I will defend to the death my sources. Anyone offering "insider" information, unless they are actively involved, is only doing so out of good faith to their sources and a belief that they can contribute in some way. This is where I stand.

(1)Cam Newton: Unless he stands at a podium and flashes cash, he's playing against Bama. However, his ineligibility is guaranteed. Auburn knows this, the SEC knows this, the NCAA knows this, and Cam (should) know this. This is the least of Auburn's worries because,
(2) Auburn is going down. Cam is essentially a diversion. Let me repeat myself again: CAM Is ESSENTIALLY A DIVERSION. There was a slush fund, and this fund was accessed by Auburn players through ATM cards. The paper trail will show this. The FBI is offering unbelievable deals for those who talk. Unfortunately, those in the know have to keep hush-hush while people are talking because this is a federal investigation, which is why
(3) This has taken so long. It is a process, people. The NCAA and others are not just sitting on their thumbs. It's like being in line at McDonald's- no matter how fast you want to move, you have to wait on the folks in front of you. Auburn knows this, and the mood in the Barn offices is gloomy at best. There is concern over heavy, heavy penalties, including loss of SACS and the NCAA Death Penalty. However,

Kingfish said...

(4) Auburn will not be given the Death Penalty, and it's extremely unlikely that it will lose SACS. The Alabama legislature and governor are willing to do whatever it takes to keep Auburn open and funded. The last time Auburn was in trouble with SACS, the governor begged for them to be spared. That won't work this time, but that is because the Alabama legislature is going to
(5) Clean house at Auburn. The BOT will be made up of congressman (if certain folks have their way), and no one other than academic deans will retain administrative positions. The state of Alabama, UAT, and the SEC NEED Auburn open, which is partly why
(6) Auburn will (almost certainly) not receive the Death Penalty. This is the only part of my information that I wish I felt more comfortable about. There is talk among those in the NCAA office of TV blackouts, scholly reductions in the 50+ (over at least 4 years) range, limits on assistants, and a revocation of almost all recruiting rights. Monstrous fines will be levied as well. This brings me to my last point,
(7) Most of the Auburn folks were grossly unaware of any of this. Chizik's reputation is dead amongst many boosters and faculty. There was a meeting at an airport to discuss what everyone (boosters, admins, etc.) knew, and as the meeting went on, anger turned to fear, fear turned to rage, and rage turned into disbelief. It was during this meeting that possible implications on SACS was brought up, during which point near panic ensued. The Auburn folks are waiting on the hammer, when they should be preparing for the bomb.

So, take all of this with a grain (or truckload) of salt. I won't post again, so don't post anything expecting a reply from me. Forget about all of this crap with "a big story coming in X days"- there is no timetable for this. Expect this to go slowly, and expect Auburn to finish its season with no NCAA/SEC intervention. Once again, I am passing along information that I trust- what you do with it is your choice.

Respectfully yours,

G. Franklin

Auburn Rat said...

this was fun. Brilliant. Oh well, let's just see how the cookie crumbles. but I am sure he will play next week. The advertising dollars with CBS are at stake and the whole nation wants to see this kid on the field. The NCAA knows that but.....we'll see

Anonymous said...

mr. fish, why didn't you post this?



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