Jackson Jambalaya

'...limit the number of bullets in any cop's gun?'

what if it is one cop against three criminals firing on him? pull a barney fife and give him one bullet?
idiotic!

Gotta disagree with you here, KF.

Though I normally agree with your criticism of the Freeper, I must say 13 is excessive, despite your given example.

He is ridiculous. He needs to leave firearms, ammo and law enforcement up to people who know just a little bit more about it than he does.

And yes, thirteen shots is excessive in that case, but that happens out of how many times of incidents involving gunfire? I would seriously question if that is the norm.

13 times in this case is excessive and this officer might need a little criminal prosecution to say the least but limiting the number of bullets a cop can have in his weapon or how many rounds he can fire after hitting the target is ridiculous and just plain stupid.

I've had law enforcement firearms training, although some time ago, with a 9mm semi automatic pistol. I was taught to fire two rounds into the targets core/chest and a third round up to the head area in case the target has a vest, and to continue this three round sequence until the threat was eliminated. We were also taught how to drop a magazine and insert a full one while moving and keeping eyes on the target. There is NO protocol for shooting people in the leg or any nonsense like that.

The cop that shot the man 13 times is an aberration that needs to be criminally prosecuted if accounts I read are accurate.

Glad someone else recognized the ridiculousness of Todd's position. I fumbled around on my half of the debate for a while but it finally went where I was hoping.

I say we limit the amount of garbage the JFP publishes...then we'll work our way up to firearms.

It depends on the situation. There is a documented case of a man being shot 33 times by cops using 9mm rounds in Chicago in the early 80s. The guy went down when hit by a 12 gauge in the chest. What was he on? Pure adrenaline.

I was a police firearms instructor for several years. The training I received, and taught, was to stop the threat, not kill, not maim. The threat must be stopped, unfortunately, killing and maiming are dreaded side effects.

13 may have been too many, 13 may not have been too many. But there is no way, looking forward, to limit what a cop must shoot to stop a threat.

All we can hope for is good training and good use of that training. If it is found to be excessive, to the standard of a reasonable officer, then something may need to be done.

7:43 Google "41 Shots" by Bruce Springsteen to hear that sad story set to music. The guy was not only unarmed, he was an innocent civilian who happened to be walking into his own apartment building when he was mistaken for someone else, I believe by an undercover cop in plain clothes.

Edit: the "41 Shots" incident happened in NYC in the late 1990s or early 2000s, not Chicago.

.45 ACP.....cause it's just dumb to have to shoot twice.

Todd has been promoted to Fondron Police Chief, his first order of business remove fire arms from officers. They can only used rolled up copies of JFP to protect and serve.